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Belgian SIS number/card?

Question

is an SIS card/number issued by the mutuelle you join, or issued directly by the government?

do you need an SIS number to be employed in Belgium? I am a Belgian perm. resident, have a 5 year ID card and a national number, but have always used my spouse's international insurance plan from our home country; we've never joined a mutuelle here.

I haven't worked in Belgium up until now, but am starting a job and in the paperwork for me to complete for my new employer an SIS number is asked for? Can I just leave it blank until I select and join a mutuelle?

(I'm not trying to get out of paying social insurance, I'm sure I will eventually join a mutuelle the next time my spouse's insurance is up for renewal)

I hope I don't need to have an SIS number already in order to begin work for a Belgian employer?

sn

Check the back of your electronic ID card. it will be your birthdate followed by 5 number.

YY.MM.DD-NNN.NN

Sep 9, 2014 10:49
Senfre

Thank you but on the back of my electronic id card my birthday appears twice on the bottom buried in 2 strings of numbers, once followed by 9 numbers and letters; the other time followed by 6 numbers (no periods/full stops or dashes in there)

is an SIS number always 5 digits of numerals 1-9 only or does it have letters and numbers?

Sep 9, 2014 12:15
kasseistamper

My SIS card was given to me by my mutuelle. Whether it was ISSUED by them or on the instructions of the government I don't know but I know that the SIS card has fallen into disuse over the last couple of years - I now have to present my ID card in, for example, the pharmacy.
There are 2 numbers on my card. One - as described by SN above - is, in fact, my national number and there is another, 10 digit, number but with no indication of the significance of it.

Sep 9, 2014 12:21
sn

Check the top left of your card.

Sep 9, 2014 14:49
becasse

Your SIS number is the same as your 9-digit "Identification number of the National Register" which should appear at the TOP of the reverse side of your eID card, i.e. what you call your national number.

I suspect that you may have to join a mutuelle as soon as you start work as you will no longer be considered to be your wife's responsibility, but the cost of doing so is only a few euros a month.

Sep 9, 2014 14:49
ao

You don't need the SIS number to start working, but it is compulsory to join the mutuelle. Anyway the social security &health care payments will be automatically deducted from your salary by the payroll (assuming you'll be on a Belgian contract) independent on whether you belong to one or not, so you won't really save anything by not joining. On the other hand, you can check with your wife's insurance if your cover could be changed into partial cover (coverage of fees not covered by the mutuelle), that should save you some in the premiums.

The SIS card, as someone mentioned already, is disappearing and new ones have not been granted anymore since beginning of this year. The mutuelle data will be in your residence card and you are registered at the mutuelle with your Belgian ID number based on your birth date (YYMMDD-xxx-xx).

Sep 9, 2014 16:48
Aussie Guy

Didn't want to start a new topic, this was the closest thing to my question I could find. Wondering if anyone could help me out, ill try and keep it simple as possible....

- Non EU citizen, moved to Belgium because spouse got a job offer.
- Obtained my temporary residency (orange card) on that basis.
- Was working the past few months, for foreign company, paid into Belgian bank account
- Employer got inspected by the social, his paperwork for me non existent.
- He had to pay back the social I should have been paying, and ill get tax adjustment to pay (not sure when).
- After he got caught, now too expensive to employ me here.
- Still owes me some money and going to make complaint to FPS Employment, Labour and Social Dialogue.

Wanting to know if my orange card will allow me to visit a doctor and not get charged an arm and leg, I do also have medical insurance with Allianz that I used for the dentist and got an ok rebate. But seeing doctor for fertility so not expecting any cover there.

Any advice?

Oct 22, 2015 17:07