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I am wondering in the current climate of downsizing, if you suspect your job might be cut, but don't yet know and havent been given notice, would you start looking for another job? It is easier to get a job while you have one, but on the other hand, if your current employer finds out and you dont get the new job, then your loyalty might be called into question and you get fired anyway. So what is the general good practice here?

parachute

Sounds like way too much emotion and not enough pragmatism flowing between you and your employer.
Could be the big problem here is your FEAR, so tackle your fears & take action.

1) Think through a worst case scenario (you do nothing and are fired)
2 1) Read "Feel the fear & do it anyway"
3) if you truly truly truly think your employer will fire you if they know you are checking out other jobs - take the appropriate actions to ensure your employer does not find out.

P.S. ALWAYS look for a better job when already employed.

Good luck

Mar 29, 2013 07:08
kasseistamper

If it is in the best interests of your employer they will fire you - and any other employee - without thinking twice.
With that in mind, if it is in your best interests, look for another job. And make sure that your current employer doesn't find out. It's perfectly reasonable to insist that a potential new employer doesn't contact your current employer until they are prepared to offer you a job; it's common practice and they will understand.
And, as parachute says, you should ALWAYS be looking for a better job.

Mar 29, 2013 08:59
S

Hmm. So at what point, and how does one flag that you don't want your current employer contacted? I guess they will understand - must happen all the time - but when do you do it to ensure they haven't already called in for a reference or something?

Mar 29, 2013 09:06
l2

They wont call your current employer unless you specifically use them for a reference.
We have just been through the same thing and not once did they attempt to call the current employer.

Mar 29, 2013 13:27
kasseistamper

They certainly will not approach ANYONE for a reference until they are ready to offer you the job. Think about it - a job is advertised and they get 50 applicants; they haven't got time to take up 50 sets of references of which only one or two will be of interest.
They are never going to take up references - either work or personal - until they have interviewed you and you can then stress that they can ask for personal references but should not contact your employer at that time.
I worked for the same company for 7 years and for more than 6, I was looking for another job. Never once was my employer contacted until I had a firm offer from a new company and that offer was made 'subject to suitable references'.

Mar 29, 2013 14:16
S

Thanksk for all the ideas. The thing is, my sector is not that huge, and it is not impossible that my current employer may know others where I might be applying... and what if someone mentions "oh, one of your people just sent me an application" - or are people ethically prohibited form discussing applicants? What if they are close friends? The thing is, my employer does pul a lot of emphasis on things like loyalty. I love my job and am fully committed and would not be thinking of looking elsewhere except that there is a chance my job will be cut, and I have to worry about that. As others have said, easier to get a new job when you have a job, so hesitant to wait until I don't have a job!!! Bit of a lose lose thing it seems :(

Mar 29, 2013 14:53