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Lowering cadastral income

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Hello, we are in the process of buying house, however the cadastral income is crazily high. CI of the similiar houses in this area is at least 100% lower.
Has anyone has an experience of asking the kadaster office to review the current CI? What would be additional thing we could do to further lower it, would joining two small rooms together, to make one, make a difference?

kasseistamper

If you are in the process of buying a house, you are employing a notaris who will charge you a fixed fee for all the work involved in the purchase. Ask your notaris for advice - it will not cost you any more.

Feb 7, 2015 16:20
becasse

Be aware that it may be that the RC of your proposed new home is about right and that it is other houses in the neighbourhood that have one that is too low.

Feb 7, 2015 17:27
Mikek1300gt

Get down your local café and ask for advice. There are more fiddles than the London Philharmonic orchestra. Remove a staircase, (on paper) have half the "garage" as a student rental apartment......

Feb 7, 2015 22:45
J

Becasse is right. Mike is full of shit.

Your house is probably a LOT newer than other similar sized houses in the area. The CI on 30 year old houses in our neighbourhood is 2 to 3 times the CI of 60 year old houses.

To reduce the tax you pay, have kids or other depandants. Each one reduces the tax by 10%

Feb 8, 2015 03:23
ibanez7

Thanks all for the feedback.
The house is 40 years old and CI over 5500 (not indexed). But even when i am looking at never houses of similiar size I they would have max 3500 CI (not indexed).

J: you mentioned "other dependants". I thought it does have to be kids? I have more dependents currently than my kids, but I thought this would not count?

Mike: do you know anyone who has succeeded doing so?

All: if I go to Kadaster office, will they be able to tell me what is the house at current CI? - like we counted that much space, that many rooms/bathrooms etc..?

Feb 8, 2015 13:18
becasse

That is quite a big difference although, I suspect, not that unusual - my house, for example, is more highly rated than most other properties in the village by a similar ratio, it is, though, only 20+ years old.

Almost certainly, your house has been rerated more recently as a result of works done to it rather than still having a value linked to its original valuation of 40 years ago.

The revenue cadastre is supposed to represent a notional rental value for the property (with the emphasis on supposed and notional), so at the time it was valued there must have been something about it that was considered particularly desirable for a rental property.

My notaire left me with the distinct impression that seeking a reduction in the RC would not be worth the effort and could even be counter-productive (as they could decide that the current value was too low). There may be some sort of valuation exercise going on at the moment as I know that some of my fellow villagers have received letters from the Cadastral Office asking a lot of questions about their houses.

Feb 8, 2015 14:30
CC_R

It's more likely that people around haven't informed anyone if they have undertaken renovations, as I believe it's linked to rentable value so if your house in known to be in better repair then that's might explain it.
I'd suggest you discuss it with the notarie.
We found locals to us tend not to be proactive on keeping communes informed on upgrades because let's face they think why would you pay more tax than you need to.
We were warned not to let the commune reassess ours by a friend if possible because once in they will add lots of positives. And it will go up and up. Fortunately we have opposite ours is low because our house was in very bad repair. We were told by our notarie to take lots of 'ugly' pictures of house in case of any future issue about the price we paid. Good luck

Feb 9, 2015 19:21
ibanez7

CC_R. Thanks. So you did the re-assessment or not?
Our house is defenitelly not in rental state that would justify such high KI.
So I would say that if 2500-3500 KI range is still valid price for other ready to live, nice decent size homes, we would have a point arguing our 5500 KI of a property that needs to be seriously refreshed.

Feb 10, 2015 23:33